HarperCollins (Amazon):
When Steve Jobs hired Ron Johnson to create the Apple Store in 2000, conventional wisdom said that the internet would put stores out of business. By the time he left Apple in 2011, Johnson and his team had created the most respected and profitable retail stores in the world. And even then, skeptics were still predicting the death of physical retail.
In Shop Different, Johnson reveals how it happened: how he earned Jobsβs trust, how they developed a vision for a store that would win not by selling but by serving, and how he convinced Jobs that the storeβs service philosophy should be rooted in something as intangible as love. Johnson then gives readers a new look at Appleβs ascent to the most valuable company in the world; offers an inspiring vision for a future in which retailers win on connection, service, and experience; and shares an honest look at what leads to successβand what can follow.
I enjoyed this interview that Jeff Benjamin and Fernando Silva did with Ron Johnson.
Previously:
Update (2026-09-25): Ron Johnson:
I told Steve, weβre going to get these people who are really good at technology, but they love people and are [good at conversation]. [β¦] And he said, they donβt exist. Everyone who knows technology is kind of geeky. Maybe you call it the geek bar. [β¦] But then Iβd seen Appleβs genius campaign, and I felt like if we called a Genius Bar, People would come out of the woodwork wanting that job. Because who wouldnβt want to be the smartest Apple person in every city?
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I said, you know, if the Macβs a success, itβll be the center of your digital life. And he came into the executive team meeting the next Monday, and Iβm not saying it was solely that conversation, he probably had a lot of conversations about similar things, but he got all excited and stood at the whiteboard and drew a picture.
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After I heard that, that night I was thinking about it, I woke up and I thought, well, if Steveβs going to market the Mac as the digital hub, our storeβs [need to do that]. Our store was like any retail store, it was is built around products. We had portables and desktops.
I told Steve, well, maybe we ought to organize a store on movies and music and photos and the things you do.